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Masteron VS Primobolan
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. Anabolic steroids, bodybuilding discussion forums. Results 1 to 16 of I read they are both kind of similar. Both are considered "safe steroids". Primo seems less risky, but pricey. I have no problem paying for it. Masteron is cheaper and I'm sure is not for long cycles.
I'm not sure I've seen a masteron cycle that is as long as 8 weeks. I read of one that is just 4 weeks. Maybe it's for "finishing touch". There seem to be mixed facts about masteron. I read somewhere on some forum that it increases high blood pressure but it really doesn't. So which one is it?
I'm not new to bodybuilding or gear. I just have no experience with Primo or Masteron. I'm looking for that lean vascular look. I'm a big fan of Anavar. I have used it on a 50 day cycle by itself, mg daily 50mg morning and 50mg at night. No problem as I have used liver support in my case Milk Thistle dietary supplement , and prostate support saw palmetto dietary supplement.
I will always include Anavar in my cycles from now on but I would have to stack it with either Primo and or Masteron. That's why I'm here to find out which one would be a good ancillary. I read that Masteron works great when body fat is low. I'm not a big fan of Testosterone's side effects that's why I want to keep it out of my cycle if possible plus I don't plan on blowing up.
I think Primo and Masteron can suppress natural testosterone production that's why Testosterone shots are needed. So if it's mandatory to use Testosterone, the minimum I should use is mg weekly, correct? Now since Primo and Masteron more likely will reduce my own natural testosterone levels, testosterone supplementation would be necessary.
Since I'm not a big fan of Testosterone due to its side effects gynecomastia, etc. Clomid increases production of gonadotropins. Shouldn't this counteract Masteron's reduction of my own natural testosterone production?
If that makes any sense. My 12 week cycle might look like this: Let me know what you all think. I think either or would be good honestly. But you should definetly add at least mg's of test a week minimum. If your worried about testosterones side effects, just use an Aromatase inhibitor AI while on your cycle. And at mg's a week, with an Aromatase inhibitor AI , you won't have to worry about test side effects.
Also, masterone acts like an estrogen blocker itself. Its given to women who have breast cancer to stop the estrogen to attach to the receptor.
But test should be the base of every cycle. Everyone here will tell you that. Last edited by Mike24; at From my experience primo helps build lean quality muscle and masteron is just a hardener wont help build muscle. Isn't the purpose of Test is to counteract other steroid's effects of suppressing natural testosterone production? If you use Primo or Mast, natural testosterone production would be suppressed, that's why most people have to stack testosterone in their cycle.
I was asking this because if Clomid can produce gonadotropins, Testosterone use could be eliminated? I'd like to hear from others. Also, not all cycles need testosterone as base.
This wasn't a bulking cycle after all. The cycle you're probably implying is a bulking cycle which I think the use of Testosterone would greatly help as it "blows" you up, but the side effects are there. Originally Posted by Mike Bulking or cutting all depends on your diet. When you say it counter acts the supression.
To be honest, I've never used clomid as an anti supressor. I've always used test as a base to all my cycles, cutting or bulking. And when you say test blows you up, that's just water retention that can be countered with an Aromatase inhibitor AI. Testosterone used correctly with a proper diet can promote lean muscle gain and fat loss.
There aren't many people that advocate oral only cycles on this site. Maybe someone else can chime in about using clomid instead of test, but in my opinion test should be the base of all cycles. I have done cycles with Test before. I'm not new to gear. I didn't like using Test and will avoid it if I could, thus I have done cycles using only Anavar gives me the same strength as when I was on Test, but without the sides and not much gains, just strength. I am no hard gainer, probably you are?
That's why you didn't want to understand my post? My original post is to find out if I could get away without the use of Test when using Primo or Masteron. Using Primo and Masteron does not require any ancillary for on cycle or post cycle therapy. I was trying to find out if I could replace Test use with Clomid instead as the latter increases gonadotropins. I guess no one here have done the cycle I am trying to do? Originally Posted by bigkit Good idea I guess? Originally Posted by 4everBulking.
Would mg instead of mg be fine, since test E comes in mg vials? If it were propionate then it would be convenient to inject mg since propionate usually comes in mg vials. I'm just going for measurement convenience.
Cypionate is mg vials as well. I have used Test E that's what I know. Are you suggesting to use Test Propianate then? Are 4 compounds just too much? Prop would be your best bet!!
I have to be honest bro, your posts are really hard to read Your kind of all over the place. Everyone is telling you to use test as a base for a reason. Did you do blood work with your anavar only cycle? I'm willing to bet you were shut down for a fair amount of time All this can be answered by reading the stickies. Any way your going to do what you want. No blood work while on my Anavar only cycle. Not sure how to determine if I was shut down or not.
I believe Ananar can shut you down if it's a long cycle like 12 weeks and at over 80mgs daily. If that's how to determine if I was shut down or not. No acne, hair sort of thinned out but sometimes it looks ok. Could be just my figment of imagination. But I am taking the advice of using Test for my next cycle.
My current cycle of Anavar only cycle is only 50mg daily for 50 days. Originally Posted by John. Is there really a difference between the 3 types of Test other than convenience? Test E is more likely used for convenience shot once or twice a week.
Test P is more likely every other day, correct? Don't know much about Test C or Sustanon.