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how toxic is dbol to the liver?
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This is an internet forum in which anyone can post and comment. Believe what people say at your own risk. Dianabol at 19 Years old self. Hey guys, I have been thinking about starting a 6 week dianabol cycle to expedite my gains. I started lifting at 6 foot pounds and am now I have been reading alot on dbol and alot of people seem to say that most of your gains will be lost post cycle because it is mostly water weight.
Is this true even with proper dieting, lifting and PCT? Not only am I wondering about keeping my gains, but also how it will affect my body in the long term. Which brings me to my main question, is 19 years old too young to be starting dbol?
I have finished growing vertically but not horizontally! If it requires 3 hours a day in the gym to keep my gains it would be worth it for me! I am eating around k cals a day, g protein and g carbs, and a good amount of fat.
I am not thinking about running dbol alot, maybe a cycle or two a year just to get those extra gains. If you are just clicking to call me an idiot for thinking about doing this, I would appreciate it if you backed it up with relevant information on the topic, and thanks for the help guys!
I'm on oral winstrol now for a cut no shut down I don't see the problem. I'm not a huge steroid buff but from what I've gathered the large majority if now all the "super damaging on your liver" properties in steroids come from oral cycles rather than straight injections.
When you take test you don't need the orals. It's recommended to take some in the firsts weeks of your cycle to kickstart it but it's also taxing on the liver. That's why you don't do an oral only cycle. At 6' lb you are incredibly skinny, you don't need roids yet. Gain another 50lb and then consider it. Also don't do dbol only, do test and dbol. I have plenty more gains to make too.
Give it some time dude. I really am open to suggestions, most people have said that im too small to start with steroids, but isnt that the point of them? With a test cycle how would that differ from a dbol cycle? And ya If i do dbol I will definitely have some on hand, I dont want no man-titties. Problem with a dbol only cycle is you will lose most if not all of your gains. With the test base and staying on for at least 12 weeks you will keep much more of what you gain.
People on this sub will tell you that you are too small and too young. To an extent they're right but depending on your goals they might be wrong. If you want to be a pro or a national level npc competitor then now's the time to start and never stop. If you just want to look good for your beach vacation then steroids aren't for you.
Sometimes people forget this is a bodybuilding reddit. Whatever you decide is up to you but being more educated on the subject will only help. I've never done steroids and don't plan to, but even I know that you should reach your natural peak before starting anything.
If you go balls to the wall with your training, diet, and sleep from now until your late 20's you'll make some serious gains.
Depending on what your goals are that might be enough for you, unless you want to be a serious competitor, then you could start to think about cycling. If you can gain muscle naturally and build a solid base then it will be more beneficial to you in the long run. This way you will learn your body, what works for you, and will develop the discipline that's necessary to build a physique. This way you're not still fumbling around with training and diet techniques when you could be making the most productive use of your time on a cycle.
Kind of like a musician that's practiced thousands of hours will sound amazing on a high quality instrument compared to a guy off the streets barely being able to tune the damn thing. So you're saying you can't "learn your body, what works for you and develop the discipline that's necessary to build a physique" prior to hitting your natural limit?
You can't have excellent "training and diet techniques" prior to hitting this limit? You can, but they won't be as good and you won't know yourself as well as you could if you were to wait. I think bodybuilding is more focused on application of knowledge than refining a skill or set of skills. Sure, it may take a bit of time to really nail things like form, mind-muscle connection and macronutrient ratios, but it certainly should not take anywhere near the amount of time that it takes to naturally reach your genetic limit.
Some may take longer than others, but those that do a lot of research may be more prepared and knowledgeable about what they're doing the first day they step foot in a gym than a guy who has been working out calling it "bodybuilding" for even years without bothering to learn how to do things properly.
Not everyone needs to hit some point in their physique to begin using gear, and in my opinion, there's no reason to think that someone who has been training for even just a year or two should necessarily be any less knowledgeable about bodybuilding and their body at least in regard to bodybuilding than someone who is at their genetic limit.
I am not willing to type this out again but a similar young person posted a similar question a couple weeks back and I gave him a full response. TL;DR - stay the fuck away from steroids until you are in your 20's and have at least a few solid years of lifting under your belt.
You are eating k cals a day and only lbs? What's your body fat at? I'm just saying using dbol to speed up the gains and not earn then the hard way is kinda gonna suck for you, especially if you run only one or two cycles, roids to get pool side abs isn't bodybuilding.
Imo way too young to take steroids.. Wait until you reach your potential and THEN consider steroids. I know its tempting but its pointless. Everything about this post seems questionable. For starters I'd like to repeat the fact that you're way too young to be using gear. Talk to anyone in the medical community and they'll tell you that at 19 your body is still developing and any gear use will have side effects; especially if you're using crap like dbol alone.
Secondly there is no possible way that you're eating to calories a day and staying at I don't care if you're in the gym for 3 hours a day, working a physically demanding job, and then getting no sleep days a year. Consuming calories a day for a lot of us is around in excess which leads to weight gain. Please prove me wrong by scaling out and giving us a gram by gram breakdown of what you're eating everyday and how much fluid you're consuming.
Then for lunch I will usually have a load of rice or pasta with lots of chicken or chilli on top, along with a PB sandwhich loaded with PB and a banana. Second lunch is another loaded PB sandwhich with a second large sandwhich with chicken or another meat and a simple carb source.
Pre workout meal is usually a tuna or salmon sandwhich whole can. Dinner is alot of whatever is cooked. I also thought I would have gained alot more eating as much as I am, but I dont seem to put on much fat. If your goal is to actually be a bodybuilder.
That is get big and compete as pro, then it's good to see that you've accepted that you'll do what you have to do to be competitive someday. I don't know if that's good or bad, but I'm amazed.
At this point I dont want to be a bodybuilder, and it was in 18 months, I posted a progression post a while back. If you don't want to be a bodybuilder, why are you asking about bodybuilding drugs on a bodybuilding forum? What is your motive? I call shenanigans, if youre eating calories a day you weigh more than , im 6'3 20 years old, and eat a day and weigh I dont care if you take roids, but dont lie about food intake. Back when I posted this I do feel like I was overstating my caloric intake, but even overstating it I would still be getting more than enough.
Lately Ive been tracking all of my food through myfitnesspal, at about cals a day. I have gotten bigger and have been on this diet for 4 weeks now and still have a six pack and have only gained around 3 pounds, this is also after starting creatine.
I thought so, youll get bigger with the and the creatine will give you 5 lbs or so, but the sad realization is if you dont take the steroids, if you want size youll have to trade the abs, dont go and get fat by any means, but its nearly impossible to stay lean while bulking, BUT if you can manage it so you have steroids and take them for the rest of your life, fuck it, arnold and those guys started at 20 and they turned out fine. The only thing is that if you run out, or want to turn back youre fucked, this is a lifetime decision.
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