Anavar cycle – the guideThere are currently 1 users browsing this thread. Allex, since you already had a thread going on basically clenbuterol xtremdiet same topic, I merged the two threads. Would've been better to run it all the way through your anavar only cycle guide. I might have setup that cycle just a tad differently, but nothing that would be a huge difference. Results 1 to 24 of
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Our tests include Sports Hormone checks, testosterone, iron status, cholesterol and more. Essentials Only Full Version. Think I might try both this time. Do you run them for 21 days, or longer? And at what dosages? Anything else you'd run for the best recovery? Might chuck in some tribulus seems to have worked for me in the past. Kyusho, I am thinking of running an anavar only cycle to.
Thanks in advance guys. No necessary, it doesn't have an estrogenic effects. Ok cheers, didnt think so but just wanted to check just incase. Don't you reckon that's over kill for a light 8 week cycle of a med like Anavar mate? What are peoples thoughts on something a bit lighter like this: I understand Nolva on its own is far more effective at boosting test levels, and lipid profiles..
I hope that this article written by BigCat may help to clear up some misconceptions. While practically similar compounds in structure, few people ever really consider Clomid and nolva to be similar.
Its not just a common myth in steroid circles, but even in the medical community. This misconception originates from their completely different uses. Nolvadex is most commonly used for the treatment of breast cancer in women, while Clomid is generally considered a fertility aid. In bodybuilding circles, from day one, Clomid has generally been used as post-cycle therapy and Nolvadex as an anti-estrogen.
But as I intend to demonstrate this is in essence the same. I believe the myth to have originated because nolva is clearly a more powerful anti-estrogen, and the people selling Clomid needed another angle to sell the stuff, so it was mostly used as a post-cycle aid. But few users really understand how Clomid and also Nolvadex, logically works to bring back natural testosterone in the body after the conclusion of a cycle of androgenic anabolic steroids.
After a cycle is over, the level of androgens in the body drop drastically. The body compensates with an overproduction of estrogen to keep steroid levels up. Estrogen as well inhibits the production of natural testosterone, and in the period between the return of natural testosterone and the end of a cycle, a lot of mass is lost.
So its in everybody's best interest to bring back natural test as soon as humanly possible. Clomid and Nolvadex will reduce the post-cycle estrogen, so that a steroid deficiency is constated and the hypothalamus is stimulated to regenerate natural testosterone production in the body. That's basically how the mechanism works, nothing more, nothing less. Both compounds are structurally alike, classified as triphenylethylenes. Nolvadex is clearly the stronger component of the two as it can achieve better results in decreasing overall estrogen with mg a day, than Clomid can in doses of mg a day.
Triphenylethylenes are very mild estrogens that do not exert a lot, if any activity at the estrogen receptor, but are still highly attracted to it. As such they will occupy the receptor and keep it from binding estrogens. This means they do not actively work to reduce estrogen in the body like Proviron, Viratase or arimidex would by competing for the aromatase enzyme , but that it blocks the receptor so that any estrogen in the body is basically inert, because it has no receptor to bind to.
This has advantages and disadvantages. The disadvantage is that when use is discontinued, the estrogen level is still the same and new problems will develop much sooner. The advantage is that it works much faster and has results sooner than with an aromatase blocker like Proviron or arimidex. The proviron or arimidex will actively reduce estrogen while the Clomid or Nolvadex will solve your ongoing problem straight away.
This way, when use is discontinued there is no immediate rebound. So which one should you use? Well personally, I'd have to say Nolvadex. Both as an on-cycle anti-estrogen and a post-cycle therapy. As an anti-estrogen its simply much stronger, demonstrated by the fact that better results are obtained with mg than with mg of Clomid. For post-cycle, this plays a key role as well. It deactivates rebound estrogen much faster and more effective. But most importantly, Nolvadex has a direct influence on bringing back natural testosterone, where as Clomid may actually have a slight negative influence.
The reason being that tamoxifen as in Nolvadex seems to increase the responsiveness of LH luteinizing hormone to GnRH gonadtropin releasing hormone , whereas Clomid seems to decrease the responsiveness a bit1. Another noteworthy fact about Nolvadex is that it acts more potently as an estrogen in the liver.
As you remember, I mentioned that clomiphene and tamoxifen are basically weak estrogens. Well, tamoxifen is apparently still quite potent in the liver. This offers us the positive benefits of this hormone in the liver, while avoiding its negative effects elsewhere in the body. As such Nolvadex can have a very positive impact on negative cholesterol levels2 in the body, and therefore too should be considered a better choice than Clomid.
It will not solve the problem of bad cholesterol levels during Steroid use, but will help to contain the problem to a larger degree. Another reason why I promote the use of Nolvadex over Clomid post-cycle as if being times stronger and having more of a direct effect on restoring natural test wasn't enough is because it's a lot safer.
Not just because it improves lipid profiles, but also because it simply doesn't have the intrinsic side-effects that Clomid has. Clomid causes more acne for sure, but that's mainly because you need to use a times higher dose.
But Clomid seems to also affect the eyesight. Long-term Clomid therapy causes irreversible changes in eyesight3 in users. For me that alone is reason enough to prefer Nolvadex. Lastly, one should be aware that use of these compounds can reduce the gains made on steroids. Nolvadex more so than Clomid, simply because it is stronger. Estrogen is responsible for a number of anabolic factors such as increasing growth hormone output, upgrading the androgen receptor and improving glucose utilization.
This is why aromatizing steroids like testosterone are still best suited for maximum muscle gain. When reducing the estrogen levels, we therefore reduce the potential gains being made. For this reason one may opt to try Clomid during a cycle instead of Nolvadex. Although I would imagine that the problem that needed solved would be of more concern, in which case nolva remains the weapon of choice. It's a plain fact that there is a high correlation between gains and side-effects. Either you go for maximum gains and tolerate the side-effects, or you reduce the side-effects, and with it the gains.
That's life, nothing is free. If problems of Gynocomastia or other estrogen related symptoms tend to pop up during a cycle the use of mg of Nolvadex or mg of Clomid daily should easily contain the problem, and be used until a few days after the problem subsides.
For best results and the least amount of problems upon cessation it is best stacked with Proviron 50 mg or arimidex 0. Its not advised that these products be ran concomitantly with the steroid for the entire duration of the stack, as this will reduce your gains.
Instead cease the usage of anti-estrogens once the problem is contained, and should the problem resurface, simply recommence the use of the products in the same manner as described above. Once a cycle of steroids is concluded one should always initiate a post-cycle therapy to help bring back natural testosterone as soon as possible. This will help you to retain the mass you gained. How this is done depends highly on the type of steroid used. If only orals were used, therapy should start immediately, even the last day of the stack.
If short-acting esters or water-based injectables were used, therapy should commence within days after last injection, and if long-acting esters were used then it should commence 1. The length of the therapy will vary as well, from weeks. For best results, it is best stacked with HCG Human Chorionic gonadotrophin , which functions as an LH analog and can help bring testicle size back up. HCG use starts the last week of a cycle, and on from there every days usually IU and discontinued 1.
The reason being that HCG itself is also suppressive of natural testosterone and should be out of the body before therapy is over, or it will inhibit natural testicle function. For Clomid and Nolvadex, doses are usually tapered down. Its best to start with mg of Nolvadex or mg of Clomid for the first week or the first two weeks, and then finish the program with mg of Nolvadex or mg of Clomid for an additional two weeks. References 1 Vermeulen A. Cancer Oct, 58 4 angelfan I would run.
Kyusho, how did you find the PCT after anavar cycle in the end? Come on now, you don't need any pct for var only. The thing is weak!!!! Var only has no influence on libido or test production. It doesn't shut you down, that's for sure. Teras1 Come on now, you don't need any pct for var only. You can stay on for extended periods of time yes.