Anabolic steroids, bodybuilding discussion forums. - SteroidologyThere are currently 1 users browsing this thread. Anabolic steroids, bodybuilding discussion forums. Results 1 to 6 of 6. Has anyone ever used these abavar I have currently been on Human Chorionic Gonadotropin HCG for anavar cycle with hcg three weeks now and was thinking of starting my first ever Anavar cycle, is this a good idea?
First cycle. Anavar/Test Prop/HCG. (Run with Avena Sativa &NAC )(Clomid&Tamo PCT)
By Mal , March 8, in Steroid and Testosterone information. I've done a load of my own digging and got a lot of opinions from friends already but have come up against a block on getting a final few bits of info regarding this type of cycle!
There is no test as this is the first cycle and due to holidays interjecting the middle of the year awkwardly it doesn't allow enough time to do a full test cycle! What's the pin size I should ask for and can I get these somewhere online? Or do I just go on boots? Pretty specific questions I know but just done so much digging these are the bits causing me the final headaches! I like this cycle just the way it is. Thinking of trying something similar myself at some point, although personally I would add mg test and maybe an AI.
I don't see why you need to wait for natural test to start shutting down to start. I would do 2 x iu as you would have probably have days with very low test with 1 shot a week. When we're talking about shut down I thought that's what HCG was for so it doesn't shut you down? What do we mean by shutdown? Like no natty test production anymore? What's the HCG for? HCG will keep the leydig cells in the balls active and producing test.
It mimics LH leutinizing hormone. But, in doing so it will suppress natural LH. In simple terms, there are 2 parts to recovery: HCG will solve 1 by keeping the balls active and producing testosterone, but the clomid and nolva are needed to solve 2. Sk50 makes perfect sense! So basically will I feel great for first few weeks then crap for a while then ok again after pct or should the hcg keep me ok throughout?
You will feel just fine throughout the 8 weeks because the HCG will cause production of testosterone, estrogen, pregnenolone etc. The only time you won't feel so great is when you stop the var and HCG. You will have no or low LH, so little testosterone will be produced until the nolva and clomid recover your LH to pre-cycle levels. So no way round this without having a maintenance dose of test I assume as far as you can see? HCG basically sends a signal to your testes, and stimulate your leydig cells, can help prevent testicular atrophy, it will not stop you being shut down from producing natural testosterone.
The other option, of course, is to just run the 8 weeks without HCG. Var 75mg for 8 weeks probably won't cause full shutdown. I know it's your first cycle mate and all the pinning might put you off but have you considered running test prop alongside the var? So just use HCG if you start to feel crappy? Or to kick start pct? How would you notice if you were "shutting down"? Yeh it's been thought about long and hard but it's not possible due to other commitments and timings wouldn't work to get the full cycle.
Ok so using hcg as part of pct if necessary? Like a kick start if you feel like you're shutting down? What symptoms will you get from shut down? I'm now questioning what the benefits of running hcg with var are altogether?! I saw it on another forum at some point. Sk50 - so you think hcg should only be used as and when you feel like you are shutting down?
Or as a kick start to pct? How do you know you are shutting down? The more I read this the more I wonder the use of hcg with var?! I saw it on another forum to run it all the way through! Why would you do this? So I've seen a bit of conflicting posts across the web so far - a lot saying the above and not to use hcg at all, some saying use it if you get testicular atrophy to kick start them, some to kick start pct and some to run it as part and parcel of cycle to keep your balls in check and working well?
I've heard people react differently to var so would it be worth having hcg on hand around week 4 in case starting to feel crappy to start then?
Its just to keep your leydig cells firing so when you come of they aren't full shut down. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Sign up for a new account in our community. Already have an account? Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2. Posted March 8, Hi everyone I've done a load of my own digging and got a lot of opinions from friends already but have come up against a block on getting a final few bits of info regarding this type of cycle!
The cycle looks like this: The couple of questions I had were: Should HCG be started the same time as anavar or later? The HCG should that be done at a 1 x iu pin or 2 x iu? Do I need to run clomid as well as nolva? Like I say - any or her suggestions etc just throw em on here!
Share this post Link to post Share on other sites. Yes, stop it before PCT. HCG will suppress LH. Can't help with this one. I forget where I got mine when I bulk ordered.
That's great thanks When we're talking about shut down I thought that's what HCG was for so it doesn't shut you down? Sorry - also do you think it would be worth getting an AI if so any reccs? That would be the most common method of using anavar without injectables. Doesn't anavar not shut you down as hard, why HCG??
I don't see the need for hcg here to be honest. Posted March 9, Yes, if you were running test then that's when you would use hcg. Create an account or sign in to comment You need to be a member in order to leave a comment Create an account Sign up for a new account in our community.
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