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Essentials Only Full Version. I have never gone above mg per week as a Test base. You feel the need to tell everyone they have a steroid problem Its you who cycles 3 grams of Test a week and throws in 3 grams of Deca aswell on the last week with no explanation, yes your bigger than me but only by a stone and you have been doing heavy cycles for years. Hi my name is blue ive been on steroids for 11 weeks im a hooked please send me to rehab. Im way way ahead of you in terms of development, and i was before i got into the kind of doses your talking about, and the legnth of cycles your talking about.
Its like people saying that you have to run mega doses and long cycles of var. It's pretty simple daz, meds with longer esters need to be run longer before blood levels stabilise. I've never run Eq in large doses, works great at about mg. Some people don't get on with certain meds, that doesn't mean they have to insult and ridicule people that do. I seem to remember stating that Eq effects get good at around weeks, not And I don't recall anyone talking about sudden bursts of gains either, in fact I believe the words used were "slow and steady".
I dont understand why you seem to comment on how im obsessed with gear every time i make a post, the TAOS forum has been quiet recently and all im doing is asking questions. Homercles dazc i dont get the logic that 12 weeks isnt very good, but that 16, 20 or longer would be good. Mate, not trying to be sarky here, but at what point do you consider a man to be "on his way to having a problem with steroids" I ask out of curiosity, as I couldn't possibly see how one person who regularly uses steroids has any more of a drug problem than another person who regularly uses steroids.
Might be why he took that as a 'personal attack. Seems a good post with good intentions and I agree with the sentimants of it, people are only looking out for you: Yeah, long cycles certainly aren't suitable for everyone and someone extending a cycle to try and get more gains out of a drug that doesn't work for them makes little sense. I'd come off then go back on in a few months. But hell I just finished a 26 weeker so what do I know lol.
I think my gains have slowed now, I def noticed a change when I added Tren to my test cycle and dbol made a difference. But sadly time for me to put the syringe in the drawer and keep them there, I actually miss jabbing myself now!! Got so used to doing it, can see how people could go on forever.
To be fair, people always comment on how test enanthate takes about week mark to "kick in. It means that yes you might get increase in libido quickly and increase in weight from water retention early on, but the real strength gains often come around the 5 week mark. Noone ever questions that when someone talks about it. Yet EQ, with nearly a half-life double that of test enanthate, someone mentions that it takes week double what test E does to fully kick in, and people can't believe it?
By the logic of saying it is uneffective, test E is ineffective when compared with test prop, we should all run test prop because it kicks in 2 weeks in as opposed to ? EQ is a marmite med. Even with test products you get people who say they don't put on weight alone with test just strength increase, you get the vice versa of that.
Many effects of test are due to water retention at time for example, whereas with EQ you don't get that. So whats the benefit of EQ? It increases appetite in many, and increases RBC which can actually help not only with cardio but lifting weights.
Some will love it some will hate it, more so than most other meds but you get the same with other meds such as primo, masteron, even deca, etc. For every person who hates the stuff I'll show you someone who likes it, I'll show you a semi-pro and pro who claims to use it regularly who are bigger than anyone posting in this thread.
Smart, educated semi-pros competing for their pro card and know their stuff. They obviously must think its a useful med if they use it and yes everyone is different but my point remains - just because it isn't loved by everyone doesn't mean it isn't a useful med for many people. Mate you're agreeing with half of what I said. I wasn't having a dig at your post nor was I suggesting the OP should use the med.
You say there are better meds - again I would say a that is personal and b for what effects? Tren is a better med for many things than others but some people can't stand being on it, it shuts them down so hard that they lose a lot of it anyway - so whats the point in it being a better med if those things happen?
Doubtful, not much is better than EQ for that in most people. Better for increasing RBC? Again, EQ is the best med for that. It has other purposes too. It depends how you define better. You yourself just seem to have agreed there is a "kick-in" time. Surely you can see I don't mean and noone who uses that term means that the hormone does nothing until 5 weeks time!!!
Thus people think thats muscle gain etc. Early strength gains are usually due to water retention. You may not like the word, but don't make it mean something that people are not trying to make it mean. Of course the hormone is active from the word go. That is a REAL medical phenomenon of drugs.
That is why you take any SSRI or other anti-depressent and they say you won't feel or see effects for about weeks and you need to stay on for a minimum of 6 months for benefits.
Of course the hormone is acting from week 1, but you can't necessarily feel the full effects then. And that is my point. EQ doesn't work for you personally, thats fine it appears to do little for many people. But then again you claim that you don't gain off less than g test these days. Don't discount the drug though for all and make blanket statements, which you have done here mate thats all I'm saying. Primo isn't a strong drug, but many people like it for steady, but slow, but keepable gains, and less harsh shut down of the HTPA.
Thats all I'm saying, some meds do have their uses and thats all I was trying to say. The problem is your posts seem to say it is a pointless med with better alternatives. For you personally yes that may be the case but many would disagree with you and I'm just trying to offer a different viewpoint, and justify why!
Ok mate no probs, if your looking out for me then thanks, i guess sometimes just inturprit things wrong as alot of the time the people who do the slating are the heaviest users I used Eq at mgs for a very long time and genuinely believe it helped with athletic performance, however, I ended up in hospital with blood as thick as porridge, LMFAO.
I saw gains, though it was muslce previously held and being recovered so not quite the same. I think the dose thing has come from the last cycle i posted up, using an ever increasing dose of test from mg per week up to 2g, where i stated about not gaining on the doses i had been using, but not wanting to end up on a couple of gram a week constant.
Someone earlier suggested i used 3g a week, just wanted to clear up this fact, and the fact that i have NEVER gone that high. Create an account or sign in to comment.
Hi my name is blue ive been on steroids for 11 weeks im a hooked please send me to rehab Homercles Pro-Member Total Posts: You can't plead poverty with 2 cars.
That's like a little Kenyan chap pleading poverty with 2 packets of uncle bens rice hidden under his bed. Southwest, United Kingdom Status: