Gynecomastia: A Dude Grows Breasts – Estrogen Side Effects of Male Anabolic Steroid UseThere are currently 1 users browsing this thread. But if you do cycle on and off the drugs have a more significant effect corrrct? I'm speaking specifically to Dianabol como tomarlo. The reason is that Dbol is a class 2 steroid that works apart from androgen If you run a anabolic steroids estrogen levels pct hcg,nolva,clomid ect wont you keep most of your weight anyway? With the execution of losing your elevated blood volume and water weight?
Optimal level of estradiol while on cycle?
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. But if you do cycle on and off the drugs have a more significant effect corrrct?
I'm speaking specifically to Dbol.. The reason is that Dbol is a class 2 steroid that works apart from androgen If you run a proper pct hcg,nolva,clomid ect wont you keep most of your weight anyway? With the execution of losing your elevated blood volume and water weight? Sent from my SM-GU using Results 1 to 33 of Optimal level of estradiol while on cycle?
Join Date Apr Posts E2 at 21 is a good number clinically speaking. It can go even lower without health issues. Typically, osteoporosis becomes an issue if E2 goes gets to 10 or lower. If you want to lose fat, you want E2 on the lower end and not the higher end. Keep in mind that the farmers give cattle estrogen to fatten them up, not testosterone.
Originally Posted by jpkman. I think or so is fine for most guys. The other thing to consider, and I am not up on it enough to really talk about, but you do need a certain amount of E to build muscle and strentgh, go too low and your performance in those areas will suffer.
All of this depends on what range you are talking about - I am using what mine says on my labs and it is around or so. So I go off the 30 as the upper limit. Others are extremly insensative and can handle large E2 levels. Gyno requires E2 and IGF! No E2 means no gyno no matter how high your IGF is. This stands to reason anyway. I have never had my IGF levels tested. I know that HCG raises them, so mine are probably on the upper end anyway. The E2 look like a good number but Agree with Vegas, If it was low then cut back.
But he can't cut back too much if he is already at Originally Posted by flatscat. E2 is already at the low end, you'll start seeing sides if you go much lower.
E2 does affect cholesterol levels. Another reason you don't want it too low. The only bad thing about higher that I have experienced is some water retention and gyno. So the real issue is when does the gyno kick in for you you don't want to find out. Also if E2 gets too high it starts to compete with the T and you get diminished benefits from the T.
You definately don't want your E2 lower, and a little higher would benefit the HDL. Just don't let it go out of control. You really need to find out the ranges - maybe you can call the lab or your doc.
Also, while one would think a unit is a unit, different labs may give different results based on a different methodology as to how they perform the process thereby giving a different range for highs and lows based on the results of the patients they have performed labs on than another company. Doesn't make sense to me either, but I have seen it before.
If your E2 result is based on the common L. The units are the most important. Different labs can actually give some tests in different units. But if the you the units the ranges given by the lab are only the lab's range value, which can vary by lab. Some labs will vary the ranges based on age for certain tests, but not all tests. If you know the units, you can use your own range of what is best. Of course, I am a chemist so this is extremely simple for me. Your results may vary.
If you look at the sticky "Interpretation of Free Testosterone , Estrogen, and Total Testosterone Blood Tests" in this forum, it has the following info on ranges for Estrogen: If estradiol levels are in the upper one-third of the normal reference range, or above the normal reference range, this excessive level of estrogen should be reduced.
The answer is no. Look at lab ranges like this: I go to one doc and he sees my T is He says I am good so not HRT. I go down the street to another doc and he freaks cause my T is too low and gives me HRT. This is what lab ranges are like. Different labs will publish different ranges even though the ranges are based on the same units. I don't know exactly how they come up with these ranges, but all of the labs seem to disagree on what the ranges should be on many of the tests.
Some tests are consistent. Yes the same result. But the whole discussion is around E2 right now. My point I have been trying to drive home is you can't just say, "my lab says is good". For the majority of people 70 is going to make them fat and many will get gyno. So the lab ranges are really worthless. We are trying to get to "optimal" numbers for best health. I know that my idea of best E2 range is skewed by the fact that I get gyno at But just like best T levels, there is a best E2 level that works for most people.
That level seems to be in the range as a low and high, with being on the high end of that range better than being on the low end of that range.
The higher end affords better mood, better lipids, etc. The only disadvantage is some extra water and fat. Posted By TexasGiant 1 replies Today, First cycle Test Prop and Posted By Maniac17 2 replies Today, Hello 27guage, where have you been Posted By DarthFlex 3 replies Today, Cruise for a certain time due to Posted By Coco 2 replies Yesterday, All times are GMT The time now is Copyright - Steroid.